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I don't think that changing the "members only" posting will help keep the riff-raff out, seeing as how the riff-raff most likely to come in here and do harm like they have proven themselves very capable of doing in the past, are still on the membership rolls.

I am not for changing things at the present time, unless you want to talk about expunging all of the hole people from our forum. If they then want to come in here, they can start all over with another nym and stay under the same conditions that we all are subject to, though, I would prefer they start with two stirkes against them and any getting out of line at all would be strike three.

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No Ethel, not really, at least not yet. I don't believe it would carry at this time, besides, the way things are now, the hole people could vote here. But at some time in the not too distant future, I believe that they will grow restless and tire of bashing along the pecking order of the Kabal, Klique, Kadre over in their hole, and decide to once again play games here.

They will send advance pawns to ooze in slowly and then, when the time is right, defeat the due process we have worked to establish, with their nefarious, underhanded, covertly choreographed social game playing.

Then, I not only will make a motion, but I will unrelentingly never cease to throw their sht right back in their twerpish faces, and the wars will start all over again.

In my opinion, there is too much said about forgiving and forgetting. I think those are just attempts at being religiously correct, and tactful under the guise of manners, which to me, are sheer phoneyisms. I can't forgive because I am not a God, and I don't pretend to be. And I can't forget because I am a human being with a clear, well-functioning mind. All I can do is recognize what was done, and how egregious it was, and then understand what kind of being would do such things, and use this to guide my perception in guarding against it ever being done again.

If people want to forgive themselves, and make a solemn vow to themselves to never do an evil act again, then great! More power to them. It will make them better persons, and as such, gain them new friends who are like-minded. But I will always see them through the eyes of experience and thus, will always remain vigilant when enter my personal domain.

That is just the way I am.

"Fool me once, shame on thee. Fool me twice, shame on me."

ron